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Yeah everyone is. Honestly I think Blizzard doesn't really have it nailed down yet themselves. For example the old gods are reffered to as The Three. So there are only 3 of them now and if so how did that happen? I dunno it just boggles my mind.

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Queen Azshara was specifally noted to have control over felhounds.
noted as felhound eat magic, and she was infused with it a great deal.

The titans didnt kill the old gods.
They didnt kill Ragnoras either.
Rag isnt supposed to be at full strength when we kill him, but that we can kill him, gives you an idea on what mortals are capable of.

Illidan is a sorcerer. he was one of the elves that delved into the Well. Later he became a "demon hunter" Never stopped being a sorcer though.


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"Tell them they misherd you, you said the old gods were called 'the TREE'"

"that doesn't make any sense"

"Yeah but if you think about it, it would still be a pretty rocking party"

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Aszhara didn't control Felhounds.

Hakkar the Houndmaster was the leader of the felhounds and was also the demon that helped Aszhara create the portal that brought the Legion to Azeroth. Hakkar the Houndmaster has NO connection with the Hakkar the Soulflayer the Trolls worship, Chris Metzen already said it was a slip-up/coincedence.

No one ever said the Titans killed Ragnaros which is obvious already :p. The Lieutennants were trapped differently then the old gods themselves and hence were able to be summoned like Ragnaros was.

As for the Old Gods well....theres a dead one in Tirisfal and another in Darkshore at the Masters Glaive. Course I could be wrong and those are just dead Lieutennants.


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Well the whole old god thing is one of those things have have changed.

It used to be five. Now stated as 3. There is a dead one in Darkshore..

Lots of gods.

Hakkar the soulflayer for isntance. hes a god.
Troll Loa gods.


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haveing just read the sundering i can safley say were all screwed!
new power rank
old gods









everyone else

and btw the old gods arent even on our plane of exstence their soldiers yes(rag, thundarren, water lords). they come through its GG world.

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I pretyty sure the old gods are still here they are just bound beneath Azeroth.

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I soloed all the old gods wearing a level 1 dagger and full wildheart set. Nerf me.


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I'd agree with how you've got the most powerful characters ranked. I myself to try and remember some of the lore am going to replay the campaigns of WC3 and TFT. I played them a long long time ago so I've forgotten some of the stuff. Also what I'm curious to see is will Rexxar ever do anything more than wander the stretch of Desolace. Also I'm really looking forward to mixed raid groups of Horde and Alliance for these extremely hard encounters.

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Rexxar is used for the horde onycia chain.


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Rauko, the old gods are under our world.
Also.. there are 4 old gods.. not 3 like someone was saying.
Here is my proof:
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The Pantheon shattered the Old Gods' citadels and chained the four evil gods far beneath the surface of the world. Without the Old Gods' power to keep their raging spirits bound to the physical world, the elementals were banished to an abyssal plane, where they would contend with one another for all eternity. With the elementals' departure, nature calmed, and the world settled into a peaceful harmony. The Titans saw that the threat was contained and set to work.


Taken from http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/story/chapter1.html

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There were 5 elemental gods but it does say they chained the 5 evil ones beneath the earth. The Old God of water is apparently not evil and actually fought the other old gods with the titans which would also explain why we aid the Waterlords. Which would mean he isn't chained beneath the earth and really is with Aszhara in the Maelstrom possibly.. Guess that can explain why there are so many numbers for how many old gods there are.


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If there are 4 then why do they reffer to them as 'the three' in the war of the ancients? If what leviathon says about water being good then I supose that makes sense.

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First of all the Old gods are NOT elementals. Need to be very clear on that. Its a popular misconception.

The 4 Elemental lords served the Old gods. The elemental lords were banished to Elemental planes.

The Old gods were imprisoned underground.
We know there is one in Northrend.
We think there is one in Trisifal.


5, 4, or 3... This has changed.
I believe the first mention of them was WC3? It started as 5. Then somewhere was labeld as 4... And then as Ershin stated, referred to as "the Three" in War of the Ancients.
No one is really sure.
Generally it stands as... the current cannon is correct..
Garona is Drenai/Orc, not Human/Orc..
Grom was 73, not 540...

Im of the belief that Elune is one of these old gods. Possibly not entirely "good" at all. The well of Eternity being her prison.
Im pretty sure the Ysera/Elune rumor is wrong.



Also, where are you getting this Naga making a deal with the old gods idea? It seems to not make alot of sence.
1.the old gods arent elementals. Ragnoras teh fire lord has salamanders. If naga made a deal with the water lord, maybe.. But doesnt make sence for an old god.
2.they worshiped demons, not old gods. And their current alligances are STILL demons, not the twilights hammer and old gods. Take Illidan, and the naga on Outland. They are seeking out the demons of the legion for power, not the old gods of Azeroth.


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A few things.

Message me on AIM Calias I work for 7 hours today and would love to spend that time BSing about lore.

*SPOILERS*

I believe in the end of The War of the Ancients that the Naga make that deal with the old gods or at least thats what I always assumed they made the deal with.

Yeah I screwed up the old gods arn't elemental.

The whole Elune / Yesera, Cenarias, Marlone thing is messed up beyond all comprehension. I won't even touch that in a lore conversation.

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