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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:55 pm 
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I started writing this post in word. I was going to sum up how the retcon affected the current lore and then go into to thinks they should have done / should do in order to make it better. Then I figured out that it was going to end up being a pretty big essay and I didn’t wanna see any of you have a wall of text crit your face so I am gonna make this short.

The Draeni having Eredar ties is dumb because it retcons Sargaras’ madness which is the axis for everything that has happened in Warcraft. On top of that it makes you question why the Orcs were able to beat a race like the Eredar (Eredar blessed by angels mind you). On top of that, the “dimensional ship”, and the fact that the Blood Elves shot it down, is just too terrible for words.

So what should they have done?

Eredar Ties:
Draeni and Eredar need to be their own race. Change the male model to not have the standard Eredar head and we are good.

The Naaru:
One tribe of Dranei was lead by a brave warrior named Velen. When the rest of the Draeni were fleeing from the wrath of the horde, Velen and his tribe decided to stay their ground and fight. Seeing promise in these warriors the Naaru came to Velen and him and his people the powers of the light in exchange for their services in the upcoming battles against the legion.

LOL SPACESHIP:
In order to battle the legion the Draeni needed a way to transport from world to world. For this purpose the Naaru gave Velen the ability to open dimensional gateways that would allow them to find a new home world as well as allow them to defend other planets when necessary.

Hatred of the Blood Elves:
With the Sunwell gone the Blood Elves needed to find a new magic source. In desperation they began tapping into anything they could find. This haphazard approach led them to tap into the very magic the Draeni were using for their gateways. This disruption altered the path of the Draeni and left them stranded on Azeroth.

So that’s what I think. Thoughts, coments, concerns?

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thats good but how bout this
leave shit as is cept with a few minor alts
dranei and eredar split BEFORE sargaras emprisoned the eredar and why they split? eredar wanted to use thier magics to kill and the dranei didnt but were outnumbered henced had to flee for thier lives. income the narrutos... uh naruus i mean and says since you stand so strong with us well save your asses. port them to dranor.

flash forward to the demon blood drinking party down orcs raping and what not. the dranei get ported again. this time to azoroth. why? to fit the narrus needs to form an army to stop the demons

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rauko wrote:
thats good but how bout this
leave shit as is cept with a few minor alts
dranei and eredar split BEFORE sargaras emprisoned the eredar and why they split? eredar wanted to use thier magics to kill and the dranei didnt but were outnumbered henced had to flee for thier lives. income the narrutos... uh naruus i mean and says since you stand so strong with us well save your asses. port them to dranor.

flash forward to the demon blood drinking party down orcs raping and what not. the dranei get ported again. this time to azoroth. why? to fit the narrus needs to form an army to stop the demons


Thats good but I still think the Eredar Draeni link is uncalled for. I think it creates unnecessary questions and doesn't really help either race in any way.

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ershin, i think you're looking at the eredar draeni link too hard, i don't know as much about the lore as you, but saying they have ties doesn't mean they are equal. humans and chimps have ties in evolution and what not, doesn't mean that they're equally powerful.

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25,000 years is a long ass time in WoW.. Humans didn't even exist in the well trilogy which indicates to me that they evolved from something or other in less then 10,000 years. Which is completely impossible normally, but meh, magic.

Only think I am truly upset about is the pew pew spaceship. Although the invention of the Naaru, and the whole Eredar were originally good thing are annoying.

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Thats possible. However, from reading that lore posted yesterday it seems that the Dranei and Eredar are not actually different races (such as chimps and humans). It makes it seem like Draeni just were a group that broke off cause they did not wanna be part of the Legion. They obviously havn't changed in apperance in 25,000 years and it just seems that even at this point the 2 races are one in the same.

Anyone else get that impression?

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I get that impression. I get that impression because that's exactly what they said and they used small words so there shouldn't be any confusion.

They are all Eredar.

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Deeply relieved, Velen gathered the other eredar who had thus far refused to join Sargeras. Naming themselves the draenei, or "exiled ones" in the Eredun language, the renegades barely escaped from Argus, with the Burning Legion only moments behind.


If we all jumped on a ship and headed for Mars we could call ourselves Martians, or "peeps who got they space flight to mars on" in the English language. We'd still be humans.


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So, you were right then Vic. Destroying the universe one world at a time?

... I'd buy them being draenei if they didn't have hooves and the very Archimonde looking faces.

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In order to battle the legion the Draeni needed a way to transport from world to world. For this purpose the Naaru gave Velen the ability to open dimensional gateways that would allow them to find a new home world as well as allow them to defend other planets when necessary.


I couldn't agree more.. The spaceship just killed it for me. I hope they realize an error and just flat out change it or something.

I think the whole "wisps changed the remaining eredar" theory was more plausable.


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I think thats great Ershin. Expecially:
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Hatred of the Blood Elves:
With the Sunwell gone the Blood Elves needed to find a new magic source. In desperation they began tapping into anything they could find. This haphazard approach led them to tap into the very magic the Draeni were using for their gateways. This disruption altered the path of the Draeni and left them stranded on Azeroth.


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Looks like they'll be changing it up to bring things back in line:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... ost8279544


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Yeah still don't understand it but i don't really want to try to care about it right now whats done is done they can not say we decided that Draenei is not the new race because of the lore i mean...........i know it does not make sense but i am going to go ahead sit back and enjoy it!

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There are 2 major problems with the lore.

1) The evil of the Eredar drove SARGERAS insane in original lore. Now they've flip-flopped it and stated that SARGERAS corrupted the eredar.

2) Spaceship LOL. Jesus christ, that's what you get for letting interns fuck with lore. Piss off all the game-lore nerds (no offense ershin, i include myself in that group :) )

What you said would fix it though, and what Rauko so elequently stated would work too.

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Did you all see the apology by Metzen? Seems pretty decent to me.

Edit: Here's the link

Metzen's Apology/info thread


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Draenai shoulda been what they were originally meant to be, the human race of Draenor with invisibility powers and somewhat peaceful. This Eredar crap (while cool in the fact that we get a demon race as an ally) is annoying.

(yes, I have returned.. wonder if I should start up my trivia again)

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