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Was just thinking about this.

Atiesh seems to be much easier than thunderfury to obtain (which it seems so many warriors and such have now...quite common i'd say)

Now, I know nax is a difficult instance, and that kel hasnt been downed by alot of guilds yet. But, as with any instance, that will change over time (and more than likely sooner turnover than the previous ones...with the help of lots of Frost resist for saph and kel). There is also the possibilty of Nax being nerfed, which I don't think is an unreasonable assumption (as EVERYTHING else has gotten nerfed at some point, as well as such fights as loatheb and gothik almost requiring world buffs and flasks can be a bit too much in my opinion).

Which bring me to my point in this thread. I wonder how common Atiesh will become? The fact that after you get the splinters (about a 10-15% drop from each boss) you just gotta kill 2 bosses for the last parts...seems almost too easy to me (instead of the whole "omg i gotta wait for my random garr binding"). If immo (or any other guild) has mroe common naxx runs like we did this past week where I think almost every boss but one dropped a splinter....I could for see this staff being quite a common occurrence

Does anyone agree with me? And does that bother anyone that it might be that easy to get? (don't go off the wall on me about how hard kel is i know that, but as i said in a short time i believe like with all fights itll be easier for any higher end guild to kill)

Now that aside, what do you think the demand is for the staff for the 4 caster classes? As in, who do you guys think gets the most / least use out of it and actually wants it? I haven't heard of many warlocks wanting the staff though that just could be to my own lack of knowledge. I was honestly thinking that mages and priests have the best forms simply because the crit aura can up dps insanely, and the healing aura well, thats just sick as well. (not taking anything away from the mana regen aura from the druids but usually healing classes manage their mana well enough that I dont think it would be as big an impact.)

Dunno why just felt like getting some opinions from people since im bored at work

Edit: also wanted to ask what people thought of going BACK to nax after people lvl up to get atiesh...say a group of lvl 65's farming for it. Do you think this staff will still hold out hardcore up to and through lvl 70?

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We had a 'who gets it' discussion during the Naxx test realms. Warlock version is meh compared to the mage version.

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I think they made the staff easy for a reason (easy being a relative term, you do of course have to be able to farm naxx and aq40).

As for thunderfury, I suspect they increased the droprate on bindings AND/OR changed the way bindings drop. I have spoken to quite a few people (including a rouge in our guild) who recently got their bindings, and it seems past 1.11, after aquiring a first binding and starting the quest for it, the next binding seems guaranteed to drop on next kill or is increased chance to drop on next kill. I remember with sacred legacy, Kaleth got his first binding quite early in our MC career as a guild, but the other binding didn't drop for many months later. Last week Dookie got his first binding, got the quest started, then the next baron geddon kill got his other binding and the essence of the firelord. I have also heard of many players getting both bindings in a single MC run, along with the essence.

Anyone else notice this?

EDIT: Atiesh is a hell of a lot harder to get than any epic weapon, where it just DROPS. I think that's become the "acceptable" level of difficutly in obtaining a legendary. Not only does something have to drop from an epic instance (or multiple epic instances) but you have to jump through hoops to get it after you recieve the dropped item.

And you're absolutely right paladeus, the mage and preist staffs are the ones that seem to be more useful to the group as a whole, as much as I'd love one for myself.

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Meh, I dunno Pala. We've been doing Nax for a while and I have a whopping *two* pieces for the staff. Granted, we haven't done every boss there, but the drop rate is the same regardless of what boss. For the first month we didn't get even one...it will take me eons to get my staff at this rate. I can pretty much guarantee I'll be 70 before I see it.

Yes, they have definitely upped the rate of Tfury bindings dropping. A french guild got 3 bindings in one boss fight. I have seen 2 drop on my pug runs as well.

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